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		<title>By: nyphdinmd</title>
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		<description>Well, to start the clokc doe not know it&#039;s moving hence ther eis no way to make its motion parallel to the direction the fram is moving relative to s from within s&#039;.  The frames are inertial so ther e is no way an observer in one frame can tell whether he is moving or at rest compared to another inertial frame - that is, he can view the other frame as moving relative to him or vice versa.

Look at this fromthe view point of the person in frame s.  At t= 0 let both frame s and s&#039; have their origin of coordinates conicide and let their x and y axes be parallel, repsectivelt yo each other.  Let the light clock in the s&#039; frame be aligned along the y&#039; axis.  A person in the s&#039; frame then sees light bouncing back and forth along the y&#039; axis.

Now let s&#039; move in the +x direction.  An observer in s sees a light clock in s&#039; move so the light travels both in the x and y (note no primes - the s frame observer has no knowledge of the s&#039; coordinates).  But he also sees the light take a longer path to make one round trip.

Let&#039;s say the clock is set up so that in s&#039; one round trip = 10 nanoseconds - the clock is 1.5 m long.  But the person in s sees the light trave teh  length of the clock and some distance in x as the clock moves.  Since the y and y&#039; directions are perpendicular to the motion, both observers agree that light travels a distance of cT in T seconds in y.  But the s observer sees the light in th eclock travel a total distance of

  d = cT*sqrt(1 + (v/c)^2)  where v is speed that s&#039; is moving relative to s.

So the observer in s will say that one &quot;tick&quot;  of s&#039; clock is

t = d/c = T*sqrt(1+(v/c)^2) &gt; T

Hence the observer in s concludes that the clock in s&#039; is running slow - t &gt; T.  The speed of light doesn&#039;t change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, to start the clokc doe not know it&#8217;s moving hence ther eis no way to make its motion parallel to the direction the fram is moving relative to s from within s&#8217;.  The frames are inertial so ther e is no way an observer in one frame can tell whether he is moving or at rest compared to another inertial frame &#8211; that is, he can view the other frame as moving relative to him or vice versa.</p>
<p>Look at this fromthe view point of the person in frame s.  At t= 0 let both frame s and s&#8217; have their origin of coordinates conicide and let their x and y axes be parallel, repsectivelt yo each other.  Let the light clock in the s&#8217; frame be aligned along the y&#8217; axis.  A person in the s&#8217; frame then sees light bouncing back and forth along the y&#8217; axis.</p>
<p>Now let s&#8217; move in the +x direction.  An observer in s sees a light clock in s&#8217; move so the light travels both in the x and y (note no primes &#8211; the s frame observer has no knowledge of the s&#8217; coordinates).  But he also sees the light take a longer path to make one round trip.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s say the clock is set up so that in s&#8217; one round trip = 10 nanoseconds &#8211; the clock is 1.5 m long.  But the person in s sees the light trave teh  length of the clock and some distance in x as the clock moves.  Since the y and y&#8217; directions are perpendicular to the motion, both observers agree that light travels a distance of cT in T seconds in y.  But the s observer sees the light in th eclock travel a total distance of</p>
<p>  d = cT*sqrt(1 + (v/c)^2)  where v is speed that s&#8217; is moving relative to s.</p>
<p>So the observer in s will say that one &#8220;tick&#8221;  of s&#8217; clock is</p>
<p>t = d/c = T*sqrt(1+(v/c)^2) > T</p>
<p>Hence the observer in s concludes that the clock in s&#8217; is running slow &#8211; t > T.  The speed of light doesn&#8217;t change.</p>
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